India thinks Donald Trump is bluffing regarding the #h1b – Myself, I believe it is time for India to create jobs in India for the people of India

3) Cutting Down Immigration: Trump has at been at his radical worst while talking about immigration. His attacks have been directed towards the Mexicans, with Trump advocating building a wall along the border and making the Mexicans pay for it. He has also called for making Americans being prioritised for open jobs and restricting skilled visas to make more jobs available to Americans. That would be bad news for top Indian IT companies that make their billions by using the H1B visa programme that allows low cost skilled Indians to work in the U.S. In 2015, the US issued 1,72,748 H1B visas, many of which were issued to Indians employed by companies like TCS, Infosys and Wipro. In 2014, Infosys alone filed more than 24000 Labour Condition Applications (LCA) required to obtain these visas. Many US companies operating in like Cognizant also send their Indian staff to U.S on these visas since Indians are cheaper to employ as compared to American workers. Trump had earlier termed the H1B visa regime unfair. And later in a bid to earn the support of the Indian-American community, he softened his stand. But Indians companies know that every American presidential opposes the H1B visa programme while pitching himself to be elected and never follows through with the promise of curtailing them once in office.

As for the parasites like Infosys and HCL that threw the American citizen under the bus

There are very few jobs, and what little remain are given to H-1B visa holders or outright illegal alien invaders.

Most Americans understand that their nation is in dire straits.  There are very few jobs, and what little remain are given to H-1B visa holders or outright illegal alien invaders.  People have lost their health insurance, their homes, and their faith in the American dream.  The infrastructure is in sad shape.  Manufacturing has fled the country.  The Russians and Chinese launch cyber-attacks seemingly at will.  The countries of the world neither respect nor fear us.  To put it bluntly, as a friend of mine in NASA used to say, “We’re in deep kimchi.”

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The sign said this spot was USA—

Echoing rust. Factory line.
Dead-child memory of another time.
The sign said this spot was USA—
Too young to know it didn’t have to be this way.

Sweat-stain genius, practical hands,
Built factories, built the goods, built the land.
First steps forgotten. History blind,
We’re connected to our roots by a credit line.

Wakening giant. Hunger and rice.
Caught the scent of our money, knew we wouldn’t fight.
Slippery giant. History wise.
Put down his guns, put on a friendly disguise.

We closed our eyes

And the Giant from the East woke up from a sleep, hunger for the heads of our young.
No suspicion of war, through the open door, manifest of Mao Tse-Tung.
Ulterior plans in the giant’s hands, steel cages hit our shores in a flood.
And all we received for a moment of greed was paid for with our children’s blood.

We gave up our future, families and friends.
Dollar to the giant, dollar never seen again.

Agreeable climate: pickpockets and noise.
The bankers jumped to the giant like little boys.
Economy experts selling their time,
But nothing made nothing. Can you spare a dime?

Productivity’s children sleeping in chains.
Giant kept our credit up, kept us entertained.
Fear-fallen children couldn’t say no.
Wouldn’t read label made in Chinese. Where did the money go?

Detoured discussion about manufacturing trade.
Instead we’re led to every trap the giant made.
The future decided at the giant’s store—
Took every dollar we had and loaned us money for more.

Who are we doing this for?

The Giant from the East, a billion-head beast, feeding on the hopes of our young.
No resemblance of war, through the open door, mannequins of Mao Tse-Tung.
Invisible plans in the giant’s hands, temptation hit our stores in a flood.
And all we received for bargains we believed was paid for with our children’s blood.

We traded in our future, families and friends.
Dollar to the giant, dollar never seen again.

Reckoning rust. Factory line.
Lost-dream memory of a better time.
All the signs say this choice was Made in USA—
Too numb to know it didn’t have to be this way.

© 2008 Robert Hall – Music By Robert Hall (ASCAP)

WDEL 101.7FM, they are NOT very skilled laborers #h1b

These foreign workers, permitted to work in the United States under the H-1B program of employer-sponsored non-immigrant visas, are very skilled laborers, often with college degrees, who receive three-year visas which can be, under some circumstances, renewed in perpetuity.

The practice undercuts the American labor market, as David North, Fellow with the Center for Immigration Studies, explained.

“You sort of raise your hand and say, ‘Teacher, I want to be excused from the American labor market.’ And teacher, which is the Labor Department, says, ‘Sure.’ And you have to fill out some forms, and you’ve got to do it correctly. Then you’ve got to send some money to the Department of Homeland Security, in terms of fees.”

Once the opt-out protocol is satisfactorily met, North revealed how simple it is for the company to start poaching from abroad.

“Some organizations insist that they want the best and the brightest (and), when you look at their records, sometimes as much as 98, 99 percent of their hires are from India. And then you look a little more closely and it turns out that these folks are males, in their 20s and 30s, and they’re just from India—not Burma, or Pakistan, or Sri Lanka or anything like that, just India. So you can get around the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and hire left-handed Swedes, if that’s what you want.”

Let me educate you folks a little bit.

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See the top 10 occupations?

This was for the most recent year which was 2016.

See that first one titled Computer Systems Analyst.

I’ve worn that hat many times.

Can’t buy an interview anymore because of what you described in your article.

This is what it did to me.

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How many millions of damned fine Americans that have people depending on them to bring home the bacon are we going to do this too?


Why in hell don’t we do this for Americans in America?

Amen is what I thought when I read this:

First, and foremost, with so many Americans out of work, we should not be importing labor. PERIOD. As a computer programmer, I continually tell the story how I was interviewed over early Skype for a C programming job in Switzerland on Lake Geneva. I aced the test The guy said nobody does that. But hey, I love C. I can handle pointers because guess what… I learned Assembly Language earlier, and there is nothing BUT pointers to the processor. If you cannot understand pointers, if you need the language to hold your hand and maintain ‘variables,’ you’re not the same level of programmer. So the guy says to me, “Some programmers think it’s funny what our company does. We make astrology software.” I said, “I’m an astrologer.”

The guy asks me when can I start.

I told him I need to get a ticket to Europe and get a work Visa.

“Oh,” he said, with a shift in his vocal tone. “You’re an American. We thought you were English. You see, we have rules here that say we have to hire people within the EU first.”

And that was it. The perfect job, unavailable to me, because they are required to hire THEIR OWN PEOPLE FIRST.

Why the Hell can’t we do that?

Second, the managers often are not programmers. They don’t know SQUAT about what really goes on in the computer. Oh sure, they know what software packages are used, but they don’t really know how they work, or what technologies and languages are really in play. Hell, I had one employer … a lawyer … who actually asked me if I could type faster to meet arbitrary deadline. I had to try to explain to her that the typing I do, that she sees, is only the tip of the iceberg.

With regard to technologies, another story.

I was working at a major healthcare provider in Hawaii on a Y2K contract, and they needed to hire another programmer. My boss came to me with two resumes that had all the skills except a major component called HLLAPI that we used to communicate to the mainframe. Neither resume-holder had experience with HLLAPI.

“Do either of them have any experience with IBM 3270 mainframe language? That’s what HLLAPI uses to talk to the mainframe,” I told him. The guy with mainframe language worked out perfectly, but you see, the manager wanted to find someone with HLLAPI… a much narrower skill set. By selecting a candidate with the skills and not the experience with a particular PRODUCT, we were able to continue on mission.

But so many managers want people with experience in what SOFTWARE PACKAGES they use… because they do not understand. They think no one is skilled, when many are.

A third issue is that, because they lack the expertise to discern qualifications, they often work with staffing firms to get the people they need. Since many staffing firms are in India, and since India has a cultural phenomenon alien to the United States called a caste system, the people in these Indian companies look down on people from lowers castes… such as Americans who weren’t BORN into a certain family. So they do not even consider us.

Another issue comes down to the universities. A degree says you passed this course, but do you really have the skills? What if you did poorly on weeks 21-23 because you were sick, but managed to pass the course, but the skills in those weeks are those which are necessary to the employer? the employer, lacking the skills to discern absolute qualifications, uses the degree as an indicator of knowledge, when it is not granular enough.

Another problem is universities that rely on professors who base their course dependent upon a certain text book. What if the book is wrong? Hell, I wrote a book, and I’m working on another. “Encounter with Destiny” is about a Starfleet captain who gets wrongly censored for protecting his crew instead of abiding by all the Starfleet rules, and ends up being adopted by a Klingon commander and eventually rises to preeminence in a Klingon fleet.

Hell, it’s a BOOK.

My point is, the university degree is not a good indicator of skill, but to a manager without technical skills, it is a crutch to supplant personal knowledge that does not exist in the mind of the manager.


many of the highly qualified American candidates we presented were being rejected in favor of Indian candidates

The lawsuit last year survived an effort by Infosys to dismiss it.

In the ruling to allow the case to proceed, U.S. District Court Judge Pamela Pepper wrote, in part, “that the plaintiffs’ allegations are sufficient to state claims that the defendants intentionally discriminated against them because of the plaintiff’s’ race, and the complaint is clear that the plaintiffs regard their race as distinct from the ‘South Asian race’ that the defendants allegedly favor.”

There were some 50 exhibits filed in this case, including one from a former Infosys recruiter who said, in a declaration, that in conference calls “many of the highly qualified American candidates we presented were being rejected in favor of Indian candidates.”


Many employers are attracted to these workers because they can be paid at below-market wages, and they are docile and less likely to seek better jobs than their American peers.

The first map identifies 2,000 employers who “actively and publicly prefer alien workers for at least some jobs” to U.S. workers.

“The formal name for this group of employers sounds like it comes from the field of abnormal psychology: they are ‘H-1B dependent,’” said Bryan Griffith and David North, authors of the CIS study.

This is the definition of the term: an employer with 25 full-time workers or fewer, with eight or more of them H-1Bs; with 26-50 workers, there are 13 or more H-1Bs; and with 51 or more there are 15 percent or more H-1Bs. Most users of the H-1B visa, in general, are not H-1B dependent.

The CIS study also notes how companies are able to discriminate in their hiring practices under the H1-B program in ways they ordinarily could not.

“Under U.S. law an employer gets into trouble, appropriately, for discriminating against African-Americans in favor of whites, or Gentiles in preference to Jews, but it is perfectly okay under the law for the same employer to hire alien workers (through the H-1B program) in preference to resident ones,” the authors write. “And if the employer decides that what he really wants, as some do, are twenty-some-odd males from one nation in Asia, that’s okay.

“Many employers are attracted to these workers because they can be paid at below-market wages, and they are docile and less likely to seek better jobs than their American peers.

“The second map shows H-1B employers who are classed as debarred or willful violators. They have, at some point in the past, violated the H-1B rules and have been denied the use of H-1B workers for a period of time. As we pointed out in a report about two years ago the department is, unfortunately, extremely reluctant to put erring employers in either category.”